Why Anime Is BANNED In Art Schools (And Why That Makes Sense)

Why Anime Is BANNED In Art Schools (And Why That Makes Sense)


Hey, how’s it going everyone?This is The Anime Man Hands up if you’re watching this video right now and have ever attempted to draw anime art in your spare time? Okay, keep your hands up if you have ever or are attending art school or have ever shown your art teacher in school your anime art. I’m sure there are a lot of you who are keeping your hands up. And it’s really not all that surprising, especially if you’re a fan of anime which… You should be if you’re watching this video because otherwise. Why are you here? I’ll admit I also had that stage in my life where I watched a particular anime series or a few anime series and thought to myself, “Oh hell yeah, I can draw anime art. Yo I got this shit” and then gave up almost immediately because I realized very quickly that I have the hand-eye coordination of a snake …Snakes don’t have hands. so I’m coming into this particular discussion piece, not from the point of view of any kind of anime artists or artists at all, But rather a more self-proclaimed “Anime and Otaku Culture Nerd.” I’ve been seeing that there has been some rumors spreading about in the last couple of years in the anime and otaku community of people who attend art schools or have shown their anime art in art schools or t-to their art teachers in just regular schools and a lot of them ending in their art teachers actually discouraging them from drawing anime art. There are even some stories claiming of art students who are writing up their Portfolios and projects for after graduation, Whose art teachers have completely BANNED anime art from those kinds of projects. And there’s a sucker for any kind of anime fan art, my first response to this whole thing was, “Oh F*ck No. How f*cking dare you’ve bann anime art from any kind of ‘art school’, You racist FFF-F*CKS Anime is a totally legitimate form of art and artists should have the freedom to draw whatever the f*ck they want.” #freethewaifus! But then I stopped to think about it for a hot minute as to why there might be this potential banning of anime art from art classes and art schools. and now they thought about it. I’m concluding that… This whole banning of the anime art, kind of makes sense and as much as I and many others don’t want to admit it, I can’t really blame art teachers in the west for shunning anime art from classes and schools, so let’s explore why that might be the case. I don’t think you need to be any kind of a Picasso to understand this, but fundamentally anime art is anatomically Wack as F*ck! Take any example of any kind of basic anime art and you can see why. I mean we’ve got your obvious points like, the large eyes, the large head, the hairstyles that seem to defy the teachings of Newton in any possible way. And while this may be a good reason for the banning of anime art, you have to take into consideration that a lot of western artists that are known more as the “professional artists and art styles that you should look up to” Like Picasso’s cubist arts are, for example, is also not really sucking the dick of anatomical faithfulness any time soon, so why is stuff like Picasso’s cubism, okay? But anime art is not. Well I think the biggest problem is that unlike Picasso, anime art, in the west especially, is Very much still a niche. You can show any art teacher a Salvador Dali painting And they’ll probably be able to tell you Dali’s life story leading up to that particular art piece but if you gave them an art piece of Sayori during Nekopara, then they’ll probably just question your sexual fetishes before asking who made it. One thing you do have to understand is that artists like Picasso are known for multiple art styles, not just cubism, and that artists like Dali have a lot of meaning behind their paintings and a lot of anatomical structure behind their paintings whereas your fan art of me, for example, doesn’t exactly have any kind of meaning behind it or doesn’t exactly follow any kind of fundamental structure of anatomy in art. Not that I’m saying your fan art is unappreciated Don’t you ever fucking dare think that is the case. I love every single piece of fan art that you guys have ever fucking given me And if you stop drawing fan art, I will cry I love you all but then at this point. You might be yelling at your screen, “but Joey Anime as multiple art styles as well.” And you know what, you’re very right. I think one thing that makes anime really interesting and fun to look at is that it does have multiple art styles You have your basic, like this is anime, kind of art styles like high school DD and Bleach for example. To your more experimental and not so anime like styles like Ping Pong and Kaiba, but here’s a question for you. How many people who attend art classes or start drawing anime art, draw in the style of Ping Pong and Kaiba? I assume it’s not a whole lot. When people first start to draw anime art. It’s usually more of the mainstream this is anime style like High school DD and Bleach, because those kinds of anime are usually the first ones we are exposed to. So to your western art teacher who doesn’t know the first thing about anime having multiple art styles Your generic High School DD, Bleach type of art style is the only art style in anime And it’s not only one style But it is the one style that is anatomically incorrect has very little meaning and very little variation If you gave your art teacher anime art in the style of Panty and Stocking or the Aqua no Hana anime adaptation Then there is a possibility that your art teacher might not even blink an eye at your “anime art.” Look at artists like Murakami Takashi, for example He’s a japanese artist who successfully blended Japanese anime and Ukiyo-e styles and incorporated that with the more sophisticated and structured western style of paintings and sculptures, to create, what is ultimately a very Japanese oriented anime style kind of artwork but got him the western recognition and got him to have his own museums and art pieces which are known all over the world as a genuine proper “artist” but I think it’s not only about variation or meaning or style of anime art. I think it also has to do heavily with what art teachers and art schools are trying to teach you. Art teachers and art schools Fundamentally are trying to teach you to draw and not to draw a style. It’s about understanding the basis of what makes a drawing, the rules you need to know to improve your drawing, and understanding the fundamentals of what makes a particular art style work. And mind do this isn’t just limited to the west. Art teachers and art school in Japan also follow these sets of rules when teaching you how to draw because the understandings of the fundamentals of art is a universal thing. I’m sure it goes without saying but most mangaka that have made it big didn’t get good at what they did from drawing their Waifu’s every day. Artists can draw because they understand the fundamentals of the art of drawing, and I think it’s only when you know those rules that you can start to break them. Artists break these conventional rules to create these different styles. From Picasso’s Cubism to Dail’s Surrealism to Anime Waifu-ism. That’s not a real art genre, but, my God, I wish it was. Your art teacher most likely isn’t shunning your fan art of Kirito because they don’t understand or like anime it’s because drawing these pieces of anime art that is anatomically incorrect with little variation and little meaning before you’ve even understood the Fundamentals of drawing isn’t going to improve your art and I know there are probably some like actual anime artists who are saying right now, “Uh, I got good at drawing anime art, but I never attended art class or art schools” Then congratulations, I guess you’re just a fucking savant at anime art. Unfortunately not everyone can draw their waifu from the moment they exit their mother’s womb Some of us have to sit in an art class and draw perfect circles all day. Now at this point, I will come out and say right now that I do not accept the idea of banning anime art in portfolios, after say, you know, all your art classes are finished, or you are about to graduate art school. Of course when it comes to actual school projects that you have to do while you’re at school or during classes Then it does ultimately come down to the curriculum, and what the specifics are of that project But personal portfolios for your artist career should be exempt from any kind of exclusion of style That means you’re making a portfolio to show potential clients what you can draw then I think anime art is a completely viable option. You’ve been through art school, you’ve ingrained all of the fundamentals of how to get good at drawing into your brain, and you’ve broken those rules with that understanding in mind. Yes, anime may maybe niche but there is also a huge market for anime art, especially in the online world I mean sure your anime art isn’t going to end up on the wall of a museum anytime soon, but there are a lot of potential clients online who are waiting to commission your anime art. And look, fundamentally there might be some exceptions to this problem, like maybe your art teacher doesn’t like your anime art because they’re a racist prick or maybe you know an art teacher who is completely okay with you drawing anime art and if anything Encourages you to draw anime art and if that is the case then you should befriend them because they’re one dope motherfucker But I still do think that at the end of the day anime art is a legitimate form of art And it should be embraced more especially in the west put your anime art on sites like Deviant Art for people on the internet to praise and critique or join a Manga Club at your school if you really want to pursue that kind of style But while you’re at art school or art classes Just keep drawing those perfect circles over and over again because art schools and art teachers want you to be a better artist Not a better anime artist because any style of art starts from the basics and in order to be a better anime artist you need to first be a better artist. Well guys let me know what you think about this whole thing. Do you personally agree with this “banning” of anime art in art schools and art classes or are you against this whole idea, and if you’re an anime artist yourself or have gone into this situation of showing your art teacher or art class your anime art then give me your stories on it. Were you ever faced with this problem, were you okay with this problem, or was there some other type of story? I want you guys let me know all that kind of stuff in the comments below, and hey just to clarify once again I am not saying that your fan art of me or your anime art doesn’t Deserve to be praised and whatnot because it should; anime art is fucking awesome. The fan art you guys draw for me on my Twitter and Instagram is fucking awesome and if you do have any kind of fan art that you want to share me, then please share it with me because I will look at it regardless of whether I retweet it or comment on it or whatever I do see every single one, and I do appreciate every single one And that’s not just me if you have a different YouTuber that you absolutely love and you want to draw a fan are for them, then do it because we all fucking love it. But all I’m going to say is just keep drawing, just keep getting better, and don’t be afraid to explore your boundaries. And hey if you’re an anime artists out there then good luck man. I love the shit that you guys do. Anyways guys, thanks for watching. As well like and favorite if you guys enjoyed subscribe for more anime banter, and I’ll see you guys next video of whatever I made. Keep watching anime. Ja ne.

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100 thoughts on “Why Anime Is BANNED In Art Schools (And Why That Makes Sense)”

  • IMPORTANT: The fanart piece of me (@3:54) was originally credited to the wrong artist, so I made a quick edit in video to fix that issue! The original artist goes by the name of Talart and the link to the original fanart is in the description, so please go and check it out and support an amazing artist!
    Once again, I apologize for crediting the wrong individual; I completely understand the annoyance and I fully admit my mistakes here. Hopefully it won't happen again!
    In any case, I'm glad a lot of people enjoyed this video and it's awesome to see so many of you going into deep discussion about the topic. It's great to see a community being active yet understanding about a very lopsided topic like this.
    Thanks again everyone, see you in the next video <3

  • I came back to this video after finishing my first year of art and realized that I had a weird teacher who literally recommended anime and encouraged anime art

  • There is anime art that actual use a lot of the rules of art. Even tho cartoonish it uses a lot of anatomy and perspective

  • Im no good Artist but i dont really care much about what i learned in art but the most important thing must be the meaning of the art i guess..

  • I feel bad for those that do get discouraged by their art teacher by drawing anime… I thought anything could be art and art teachers SUPPORT their student's art. I have supporting art teachers and i shall have a petition for: free will to draw anything… except for lewd stuff in school, that's just weird.

  • "—and then gave up almost immidiately because I have the hand-eye coordination of a snake.
    Snakes don't have hands."
    -Joey/The Anime Man 2019

  • I have not watched the video fully yet so this is slightly unrelated but in my old school I showed my art teacher my art and she said it was good but she told me to try more realism but once she’d seen that I could do realism this kid who was in the older year started an Anime Drawing club section in the art club at lunch and the teacher encouraged it as long as it isn’t all you do and I was ok with that 🙂

  • My art teacher likes my anime art, She even has anime art that she made herself XD My art teacher draws chibi characters sometimes. She used manga and anime characters getring beat up to teach us how to cross- hatch XD We have alot of Otaku's at our school

  • I'm shit at drawing realistic things but pretty decent at drawing anime-related stuff, so I strongly disagree with you saying that you have to learn traditional drawing first. I went to an art school and I hated every second of it. If you learn in a certain style and you stick to it you don't need any other "general rules". I like your videos, but this one felt like a video that only appeals to the younger people in your audience, because they're easily influenced.

  • As an aspiring artist and weeb, I like to think that deliberately trying to replicate an anime art style is not a very effective way to form your style. You should instead take ideas and aspects from the art and make it your own. That's what I did and , not to toot my own horn (I sound like a boomer), but I love my style now, and you can see small aspects of anime and real life anatomy and tactics in it. Long story short, if you want to take inspiration from anime then you should reference it as well as other art styles and real life of photographs

  • dang it. i wanted to go to art college, but this just proves id fail faster then sonic runs.
    cuz I MYSELF draw in a anime art style.

  • Haha… When I had art class (in Highschool it was manditory) I never really draw (ever… I loved anime but never tried to draw "Anime" style.) We all had a project in drawing Animal/Nature. My drawing is like chicken scribbles… That teacher told me that I drew my panda too anime, she only accepted "american cartoon or real life art." To be honest that class was 98% Asian. We all were offended. She never once showed us how to "draw" she just critizied our art.. she tells us what to do but never drew anything (not even a circle, she use her old student's works as examples.)

  • My teachers don’t have an issue with anime if you’re really good, they encourage exploration and trying new styles, shapes and different interesting designs. They have a problem when they see a student isn’t improving and is doing anime style only.

  • Got a question
    is drawing tanks/panzers count….?
    if it doesn't count as art I will send a heavy tank battalion to that school

  • I feel like teachers would love it if someone managed to replicate/be inspired by Araki's art style with JoJo's. They're (as of now) anatomically correct with nice proportions, it doesn't even look like anime

  • One of our topics we are doing in art is anime/manga,,,, tbh we weren't allowed but we got new art teacher and she picks topics

  • If you want to be an artist, you can do what the fuck you want. If you want to make money out of it, well… it's a different story.

  • ok so better avoid art schools, Art is something personal, nobody should restrict art, that's why it's art

  • I’ve never really liked drawing because I was never introduced to anime, my friend showed me anime then I started drawing pictures and now it’s been about a month and I’m thinking of taking art class for the first time but nvm now

  • The British museum of modern art recently had and exhibition of manga and it was epic
    It was open for like a month and was the most popular exhibition ever of recent years in that museum
    This was in London and I think anime is becoming a less niche medium
    Also I did draw anime for my gcse art as a separate piece not as my main but my teacher didn’t give a fuck cox he game up on me ages ago lmao 👍😂

  • I go to a art school cuz there is a slub i go to(art club)and there my art teacher/leader says anime art is okay and he lets me draw anime yay! but i can actually draw serious , and i can paint!so our art teacher at the club he says it doesn't matter if i draw anime cuz i can draw serius like i can draw an apple too so he supports me in drawing anime so i'm lucky

  • In my opinion "Art" is to technical. I hated art in school not only because iam shit at drawing but because we had to learn about some idiots who splashed paint on paper. And we had to guess what the artists wanted to tell us and after that we had to copy its work. My thoughts where something like wtf why do we have to do this.

  • I've been drawing anime since I was three I do it for hours and hours every singal day😊😊😊😊and I have never been in art school I just learnt by my self☺☺☺☺

  • I just clicked on this video becouse It was anime related I don't even have art in school but now that I've seen this video I think anime art style should be treated as a superior art style

  • But I did draw Son Goku when I was in high school and our teacher ask it from me to be used as an example in the other class. I'm proud afterwards

  • High school art teachers in America are like the worst of them all. I started out loving art but by my senior year I hated it so much that I cringe and get super stressed out just trying to write my own name on a check at 22yo

  • Japanese art schools are pretty similar tho, American students are stupid for assuming anime artists didn't learn the basics before tuning their anatomy knowledge to make anime

  • I think that you shouldn't be told "DONT DRAW ANIME " but instead "one you know the basics and graduate this school" then you can draw anime" (or something like that)

  • There was a girl in my art class who got super mad about not being allowed to draw anime. It was a realistic art class.

  • My art teacher says and I wouldn’t say encourages but she gives us the idea to draw in anime style but… I’m getting a new art teacher

  • Whenever I draw I think like wut i am going to draw and yes…I never went to art school,art teacher… just learned how to draw lines that's it and I am drawing…till now.But..i do all types of drawing but….I don't like Modern art..that's it and I think..is making manga ok?

  • My art teacher actually asked for some anime art and actually encourages me to draw more anime because my past art teachers were always like “aNimE aRt Is nOt REaL ARt ?!?¿!!!” But I think it’s kinda sick idk lol

  • I draw for years. I started w anime art, for 10 years I dont improve that much. But when i started to open my mind and learn REAL anatomy, I improved a lot. So yeah.

  • First off my parents are artists, so I don't need to go to art school, I have free lessons at home. I started really getting into art because of manga and anime and then I drew those shitty typical manga faces that let's be honest suck when you don't know how to draw and then my parents said that if I want to get better at drawing I had to learn the basics but they don't discourage me from drawing anime and that's what I'm doing… and still doing slowly, and now I have an mix of manga and realistic artstyle and I'm proud of myself and I'll try to learn everything so my art gets better 🙂

  • Anime is art, but if the person drawing anime has a poor grasp of artistic concepts , then the anime art produced by the said person would suck.

  • I’m kinda agree anime shouldn’t be in art school because most people like anime and if they don’t get disagree from art school or get support to make there own art style then almost every artist will draw anime

  • Sounds like some gatekeeping to me. ALL art should be explored in art school regardless of the origins. In fact, drawing anime was a lot of young peoples entry into professional art later on.

  • I believe this is because a lot of students have very similar styles DUE to them being over-depended on anime art, thus not developing their own art style. For that reasons, one must learn more than one art style.

  • I showed my teacher a ken kaneki drawing and she recommended me to watch the last airbender

    Plus she also said it's good

  • “The hair that seems to defy the teachings of Newton in every way.”

    Me: have you looked in the mirror Joey??

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